Personally, I think it’s all in one’s head. Along with all the standard models such as the Glock 19 Gen 4, the fourth generation of Glock pistols also introduced the Glock 43. lol, *steel not steal. A dual recoil spring was added for better shooting as well. I could have sworn I’ve been to this Some retailers are swiping a mag out of the box and selling it with only two mags. A few shots went out of the groupings by about two inches and that was about it. 2018 Alien Gear Holsters. The Glock fits LE’s requirements for more reasons than reliability!!! This isn’t too surprising, as most new models always seem to need tweaks. I bought a Glock in 40 S&W years ago. Numerous of folks have discovered that 2000 rounds is a benchmark. I am sticking with Gen 3’s. I’d love to get a Glock, but they just don’t fit. Do you honestly think anyone would go in to business NOT to make money? Then there are the pussys like you who always have an opinion about peoples opinions…Get off everybody’s nutsacks BRO. On the Gen 4’s, after numerous rackings of the slide there is absoulutely no finish loss at the ejection port end of the barrel ! First, I noticed that the GEN4 had less muzzle rise and kick due to the spring. There was a related problem with guns with lights mounted.  We found we had to re-spring the entire gun and rebuild all the magazines to get the system to work reliably.  In addition we were advised by Glock personnel to replace recoil springs at the 1500-2000 round mark. As far as the grip…if you want a thinner grip, that’s easy: less ammunition capacity means a thinner magazine and a thinner grip…or a similar diameter that’s rounded for better ergonomics. I have carried an original Glock19 and Glock21 for 20+ years on duty and off, neither has ever failed me. At the moment, Glock is still selling the Glock Gen 3 pistols as well as Gen 4 and Gen 5. Yes the Gen4 had some growing pains, all of which were made right from what people said. After all, the fact of the matter remains is that it’s a Glock, and that’s all that matters……. Or anything else chambered in .45acp for that matter. These are the “usual” weapons I would compare a Glock with if I bought one. Surely not a 3.5lb right? I wasn’t able to handle one until it arrived. I currently have all Gen 3 9mm in 17's and 26's. Well, better is very, very relative. Here's my take on the three Glock 26 generations.Subscribe for more! No, but we wish they did! Always check the retailer out for return policies and Agree with you… my personal Glock 22 has over 75K through it and I’ve had only one item break, ever! I guess there is not much money to be made…. The trigger feels all wrong, heavy, creepy. As you've gathered so far, the differences between Glock Gen 4 vs Glock Gen 3 are moderate. Not to light, not to heavy, just right. Recoil is the problem in both cases. But all of the sub compacts have always had these. The newer texture of the Gen 4 is made up of “Polymids” as Glock calls them.  They are small 4-sided pyramid-like shapes with a flat top.  These do increase how it sticks to your hands, but is not nearly as aggressive as the early RTF-2 frames of a few years back.  I have had some of my friends complain about the older RTF-2 texture as it would tear up clothing during concealed carry, and some did not like the aggressive feel. The new finish does mark up easier from holster wear, but when you wipe it with an oiled rag all marks dissapear and the finish is like new again. Thanks all for the numerous and well thought out replies. The gun has not been on the market long enough to allow for any true AD rate analysis of the weapon. Solid 100% of the time. I have the gen 4 and the rtf grip eats my uniform shirts. Whatever, but not their gun! Ok thankyou for putting up my reply than yanking it down!!!! I own several and have no issues with any ammo, with accuracy all the way out to 100 yards (yeah, that is right, 60% hits at 100 yards with a shoulder against a support), with rapid fire, and so forth. I wonder what Glcok USA sent out in gen 3 glock 27s? Ejection was a little problematic at the outset with a few rounds going left but that stopped. I can see and feel the difference when compared to my old GEN2. Sorry but you are off base. The Glock’s required a “Permanemt” Conversion inorder to cycle in semi-auto. Glock is ALL about sales! I have a GEN 4 Glock 19 and a GEN 3 Glock 17. The process cannot be used in the U.S. because of EPA regulations, so it is done in Austria and the parts are shipped into the country already treated. this hard coat also has Teflon . The only fault I see with this system is that the back strap inserts seem hollow, and frankly, a little flimsy.  That being said, I’ve carried the Gen 4 G35 with the medium MBS in, and it hasn’t failed me yet, so I may very well be wrong. gen 1, 2, and 3 will interchange, but gen 4 is gen 4 only.. Good article. These magazines are notched on the right and left side (left retention notch) for the reversible magazine release, and can also include an additional notch in front of the magazine for the ambidextrous magazine release. That's a plus if the standard pistol doesn't have the best fit out of the gate. I am not new to shooting. I shoot mostly .45 ACP, but also regularly shoot one of my wife’s Sigs in 9mm. (Wanna sell that Colt?). BIASSED AS ALL GET OUT!!!! Gen3 & Gen4 are an effort to make money since the originals work so well they made so-called improvements for the “gotta-have” newest thing. I got it after Glock worked the bugs out of the spring and it is sensational. This is one of the features that moved Glock to the head of the pack. All you need to master any skill is PRACTICE,PRACTICE, ohhh yeah, MORE PHREAKIN PRACTICE, save your money buy a 3rd gen, and just more bullets!! All the Gen 4 guns come with 3. Gen 4 not better than Gen 3 would choose Gen 3 over Gen 3 over any day of the week. (1911 grips, am I right?) Both are excellent designs. to bring something to market to be more similar to, well, at least certain things to be similar to (like the ability to change out the grip strap and the as you put it, more business look finish in order to help it to compete better with the XD’s and M&P’s from it’s competition who have finally started making a dent or if you prefer, taking a bite out of their profit margin, from the LE market that GLOCK for quite sometime has had a solid grip on (pun intended). Dull finish and the 3 mags that came with it were selling points. However, that being said, I never really had a problem with the original Gen 3 design.  I did know people who would put skateboard tape on their grips for added traction, but I never saw the need for it.  I work in a bay-marine environment, and have spent many nights out in snotty weather; in that time I never lost hold of my Glock…. The order in the picture is a bit mixed up, but this is how it goes: 17 frame, 34 slide, 17 slide, and 34 frame. At the recent IWA (European Shot Show) Glock was relentlessly HAMMERED by European municipalities, agencies and militarys experiencing loads of problems with their Gen 4 Glocks using the hotter NATO spec ammo. Glock Gen 4 improvements weren't nothing, but didn't exactly reinvent the wheel. What koolaid do you drink? Another rocket scientist here…name one gun company that isn’t about sales dude? The only concern I have on any of the design changes is the magazine release size. You can argue that some of the earlier changes were purely cosmetic, but the new recoil system is a true game changer in my humble opinion, and represents a true improvement in the design.  Unfortunately, this new spring system is big enough that it will not work in the Gen 3 guns because areas on both the frame and the slide needed to be re-designed to allow for the new recoil assembly.  Now, if I were an enterprising engineer, I’d come up with a retrofit kit for the Gen 3…. If thin is what you are looking for in a 9mm from Glock…Try the 17L. That is correct. I have a Gen 4 G22, which I puchased shortly after they were introduced to the market. Buy what ever one is cheaper, they will ALL work fine. These babies are heavy, especially 100 round boxes. What a difference. “if they made the grip size the same as a 1911 they’d sell lots more pistols”. It is ultra-concealable, accurate and a fantastic tool for all shooters regardless of one’s hand size. On two occassions I fired a Glock (Gen1 and Gen2) over 10,000 rounds without cleaning it. And the mag release and the texturing is just like the Gen 4 guns. All Rights Reserved. What you think? hardball, preferably a Commander size, which is about the same weight as a Glock. The Model 23 I had a target barrel installed and finally got it to group well, the others shoot just so-so. Good thing our Gunsmiths Certified Seracoater (hope i spelt that correctly)Lol. stuff like Whinchester White Box. I’ll stick with the G3. If that does not help. Save 54% $54.99 Buy Now. I love the way it shoots and it is very accurate. I was hoping to enjoy the Glock as much as my Kimber 1911. My first “fix” attempt will be to run a thousand or so dry fires with some snap caps, then put in the -.5lb competition spring and see if it helps. I just purchased aGlock 19 like the grips added the med back strap very good.negative comments: I don’t like the rear sight. I have never had the same confidence in any other type of semi automatic. However, some prefer the added traction, especially when shooting with gloves. It fits well in my hand. Free FedEx Option* (13) Glock MAG G26 12RD 9mm PKG $ 27.22 (1) Glock MAGAZINE POUCH $ 6.16 (1) Glock MAGAZINE POUCH 10MM $ 6.16 (2) Glock MAG G37 10RD 45GAP PKG $ 20.91 (4) Glock … And we know how many Law Enforcment Agents and Military Personal that carry role pin punchs in the field.LOL Plus no matter which insert you put in, the frame fills the same. But it became the success that it is today because it just worked (that, and the VP70 had a terribl… There is no single-stack Glock 9mm. It has the newest "dot" connector and let me tell you, it works. But the finish now used, no name! I also liked the de-cocking feature, and I could also tell if I had a round chambered while the gun was in my holster. The dual recoil spring...may extend the service life of the spring itself, but whether it really reduces felt recoil at all is quite subjective. I have been when you are I think. in 357 Sig with no problems. Back to the GEN 3 v. GEN 4: my GEN 3 enjoys an advantage in reliability at present and a nicer trigger pull. The 1911 is the king in some very specific and small demographics, but when is the last time you saw a 1911 on a LEO’s hip? And yes there are Gen 4 Glocks out there with zero problems. No further problems. Sure enough, Glock responded to this with the MBS.  Unlike many of the current back strap systems out there, the Glock is a hollow plate that snaps over the rear of the grip.  The un-altered grip is a tad slimmer than the original Glock grip, then the “medium” back strap insert is the equivalent of your standard Glock 17/22.  The large gives those with bigger mitts a more natural amount to grip, so you don’t feel like you’re holding your kids squirtgun. I would also argue that 9mm was the caliber the Glock 17 was made for.  The first through 3rd generation have worked very well in 9mm, and lasted close to forever.  I would almost prefer the 9mm in that proven platform.  That’s just my personal preference, and I may be proven wrong over time as the Gen 4 guns in 9mm gain experience. What matters most to me is I can point and pull that trigger and that bullet ends up where I want it without any jams or issues that cost me range time or that could put my life on the line.No GLOCK has failed me yet.And all 5 of my Gen 4’s have done extremely well.If it’s a GLOCK I am satisfied..As long as it’s NOT and LE trade in that is 😛. However, many of the folks I shoot with think that Glock is just the moon and then some. Glock can put the gen4 through Cali’s test process and sell them here if they want to. They are fun to shoot and works as advertised. The only way that things will change there. Nothing is changed internally or really all that substantially; the gun is pretty much the same except for some surface changes. I paid almost 600.00 but with the threat of new gun laws coming I was willing to pay for it. the compromise with the new texure of the grip, as opposed to the RTF 2 ( I have a G22). Those black, silky, Glocks did look sexy but Glock isn’t known for their looks. Another feature that the Glock Gen 3 guns lack is the modular backstraps. During that time I probably went through close to 500,000 rounds from glocks. Get a room hahahahah. Tennifer is NOT a finish. I’m packing it up and sending to Glock and hopefully they can work it out. Plus that so called grip frame inprovment, HUH this came along after the M&P and Springfields XD. I must put my review in now because I just picked up a Gen4 Glock 22. Why not making available the new and better spring(s) of the generation 4 pistol to be installed on the gen 3? PRINT. When you trade in look into a g36 gen3 or a gen 4 -19. In any case I love my Glock Gen4’s. I only have 1 eye and got pretty torn up over in the sandbox. Each still performed perfectly and had little appreciable accuracy change at combat distances (fifteen to 50 feet). I must say my glock has never let me down. Simple, reliable, accurate, easy to work maintain and very nicely priced in comparison to the ‘real steel’ stuff. Back when I bought it, knew nothing about Glock. The slide serrations were changed to fish scales and the texturing was changed, with stipling rather than a rough texture on the sides and checkering on the front and back of the grip. Fourth, I need to state that I was anticipating the shot and even limp-wristing the new 22 and I couldn’t believe what the turn-out was. GLOCK has shown itself to be an innovative firearms company that has changed the paradigm of pistol design and manufacture forever. They’ve kept me safe for almost 20 years. 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